For all of you fortunate Caucasians (like me) who have not had to endure differential treatment based upon your appearance, because of the free ride you have been receiving during your life-time, it is a minor inconvenience to lose a minor amount of your historical privilege to allow for the operation of employment equity programs.
So.
To illustrate:
A. Qualified Applicant under Employment Equity program:
B. Unqualified Applicant under Employment Equity Program:
Confused.. well, you obviously must not be liberal enough to understand the obvious distinction between who should get a job and who shouldn't.
To clarify, the first applicant above is obviously struggling in society, because, as I'm sure you can tell- he is aboriginal. Warren Cariou is a Metis author from Saskatchewan, and, as such, would be a qualified applicant for the Federal job posting. Which is only fair. I mean - look at him. Would you hire him if the government didn't tell you you HAD to?
Now - clearly the second applicant is not disadvantaged. You see, Sara Landriault is a woman who remained in the home, outside of the workforce, while she raised her children.
Err.. maybe what they mean is she isn't "disadvantaged ENOUGH". You see, depending upon the tides, the alignment of Jupiter and Mars, and the combined ERA of all Toronto Blue Jay starting pitchers, sometimes women are entitled to preferential treatment and sometimes they aren't.
See?
Well.. it doesn't have to make sense to you - because as long as Michael Ignatieff and his party understands it, that's all you need to worry about.
Trust them.
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91 out of the last 5,000 job postings by the federal government set out a requirement that applicants be from a particular demographic group.
Is it seriously beyond your imagination that 91 cases arose in the last year or so in which there was a really need to hire someone with certain demographic characteristi8cs in order to properly serve the community? Is it so strange that such a demographic characteristic would be made a requirement for 91particular job postings? Is that so crazy that you can't even imagine it?
And again, you're making assumptions based on appearance. Do European Jews who are facially indistinguishable from their Gentile compatriots not suffer due to anti-Semitism? "Passing" as white is not equality.
Based on what you're saying, a more logical conclusion might be that employment equity should be expanded, not done away with.
You do not know how structural discrimination works. Educate yourself.
Was it Bill Cosby who wanted to be treated by the best doctor?
I am not sure why so many Liberals feel we should share the white man's guilt when we did not participate or benefit from it.
He tried to the same point with the deaths on the reserve of two children because their father was an alcoholic and forgot about them.
a) white people continue to benefit from racism
b) what if there are two or three or twenty people who are the best? There is typically not one single best candidate for a position.
c) your last sentence is missing a verb and makes no sense.
Furthermore, I find all this, "racial categories are blurry around the edges" stuff you've been arguing lately to be really disingenuous coming from a lawyer. Categories often are blurry around the edges but that does not mean that they do not exist and cannot be defined. I think you're deliberately being obtuse just for the sake of being annoying.
Race is socially constructed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and that doesn't mean that people don't experience racism.
Or maybe you get off on denying the lived reality that people experience. Is that it? Does it make you feel powerful to pronounce on people based on a glance at their photograph?
You might be educated, but know very little about people. That's the only explanation for your profound lack of empathy. Unless you're a sociopath.
Nice to see white man guilt is used to defend a wrong headed policy.
Your anger at the white man may draw applause in your circle, but not mine.
We don't discriminate based on gender, religion or skin colour.
We rely on MERIT.
We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Marissa you are entitled to your own Liberal worldview of social justice.
"That's the only explanation for your profound lack of empathy. Unless you're a sociopath."
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Even if you could support your rather fanciful assertions with clear cut and hard undisputed evidence you interpretation and you conclusions, particularly regarding cause and effect, would still be extremely speculative.
Calling anyone who disagrees with you names combined with the absence of a sensible or coherent argument is generally indicative of a charlatan.
Yeah, overstatement to make a point. Totally original rhetorical device there.
The point is that lots of what Harvie writes is just straight-up assholish.
@Harvie
Well.. it doesn't have to make sense to you - because as long as Michael Ignatieff and his party understands it, that's all you need to worry about.
Trust them.
I agree politicians should convince the public that their platforms and opinions are correct. They need facts to show the general public that the path they're putting Canada on is best for the country.
So, has Harper provided any fact based information to support this move? If not shouldn't we try to conserve what our predecessors thought was just and fair. If there is need for change, why?
This is the same type of double standard that you criticize Liberals of doing.
The question in this topic ought to be whether or not there is a problem, which requires data on it. Two people otherwise being equal in their capability which person should be hired? For example there's statistics from the US that show that African-Americans without a criminal record have a lower chance of getting a job than white Americans with a criminal record (where education and experience is comparable).
This suggests that employers (who have disproportionally white) have a racially based bias towards hiring people who look similar to themselves.
This means that there needs to be a means to combat there for substantial equality to be meaningful.
If the question is should we need to have affirmative action, then no of course not. But unfortunately, we live in a world where people do have over and covert, conscious and unconscious racist tendencies that do negatively affect the lives of honest and hard working people who just want an equal chance to be successful.
Except Sarah Landriault is being less than honest. Only 1% of that department has employment equity. Why didn't she apply within the other 99%?
I am a civil servant for the Quebec government. Let me tell you, if you don't have proper post-secondary certificates and/or work experience, yes, even for clerical work, they (interviewers; HR) make you jump through all kinds of hoops. The federal civil service isn't much better.
For the feds, I was told by those (my husband's nephew works for fed civil service among other aquaintances) that most of those jobs require some kind of post secondary education and yes, they like paper certificates from accredited institutions; none of that "I trained at home" kinda thing. And then, there are skills tests, language tests (depending on job applied for and department) and of course, interviews before a panel. For those jobs which they will accept only high school leaving; you have to pass through far more skills tests than if you did with post-secondary certificates.
By her own admission, Sara Landriault has no education, no marketable skills, and has no work experience for the better part of the last decade. Take a look for yourselves
http://www.careofthechild.com/?p=77
When I went back on the work force after many years, I had to start back at the bottom of the ladder, doing a hard crappy job at crappy pay, with crappier people at a taxi office. That's what I was always told by job search consultants. Start at the bottom of the ladder. If it's good enough for me (And I have Cegep, and University education, unlike Landriault); why is it not good enough for her?
Instead of crying white persecution, why doesn't she simply go back to school and upgrade her skills? Yes, even the private sector loves to see actual certification from accredited institutions. I speak from experience.
This ain't the 60s anymore. You need a masters degree to be a panhandler.
Except Sarah Landriault is being less than honest. Only 1% of that department has employment equity. Why didn't she apply within the other 99%?
I am a civil servant for the Quebec government. Let me tell you, if you don't have proper post-secondary certificates and/or work experience, yes, even for clerical work, they (interviewers; HR) make you jump through all kinds of hoops. The federal civil service isn't much better.
For the feds, I was told by those (my husband's nephew works for fed civil service among other aquaintances) that most of those jobs require some kind of post secondary education and yes, they like paper certificates from accredited institutions; none of that "I trained at home" kinda thing. And then, there are skills tests, language tests (depending on job applied for and department) and of course, interviews before a panel. For those jobs which they will accept only high school leaving; you have to pass through far more skills tests than if you did with post-secondary certificates.
By her own admission, Sara Landriault has no education, no marketable skills, and has no work experience for the better part of the last decade. Take a look for yourselves
http://www.careofthechild.com/?p=77
When I went back on the work force after many years, I had to start back at the bottom of the ladder, doing a hard crappy job at crappy pay, with crappier people at a taxi office. That's what I was always told by job search consultants. Start at the bottom of the ladder. If it's good enough for me (And I have Cegep, and University education, unlike Landriault); why is it not good enough for her?
Instead of crying white persecution, why doesn't she simply go back to school and upgrade her skills? Yes, even the private sector loves to see actual certification from accredited institutions. I speak from experience.
This ain't the 60s anymore. You need a masters degree to be a panhandler.
So much for judging a person by the content of his character rather than by the color of his skin. But that’s “social justice” for you! It’s time we got back to equal justice and damn the political calculations of the leftard supremacists
Politically correct bigotry is as wrong as every other form of bigotry and all the tear jerking, guilt peddling excuses will never change that. It’s all about screwing over one person in order to gain the support of another person, that’s why all fair minded people are against it.
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