Monday, July 25, 2011

Expanded Thoughts on Amy Winehouse - Thanks to Jim

Amy Winehouse is gone.. how WILL we survive?

Well.

The readers have spoken.

Apparently, the more significant posting today was not related to a right-wing extremist who killed 93 people in Norway, it was the passing of Amy Winehouse.

Which isn't surprising, I suppose.

It seems that my short and dismissive commentary on Winehouse's passing struck a raw nerve with "jim", who responded thusly:
jim said...


asshole,u make consevatives look
like assholes
fuck off

I responded somewhat critically to both his sentiments and his lack of effort in expanding on his point, and a few other readers also suggested that jim was a little bit off base.

So - I thought I might, perhaps, expand upon my thoughts regarding the demise of poor Amy Winehouse.

To add to the "piling on" of poor jim, who, clearly is in mourning today..


jim (he has an aversion, apparently, to capitalization);

We diminish the accomplishments of people who truly succeed in life when we reward, even posthumously, the example of excess and stupidity.

While people in this world struggle against formidable odds just to have enough food to eat or to over-come other great obstacles not of their own making, in Amy Winehouse, we see, yet again, an entertainer who was given everything she needed in life, and yet, was still by all accounts a mess of a human being.

She attended private schools to facilitate her talent, she enjoyed early commercial success, and, one assumes, financial success.. and yet, poor Amy, she was depressed and consumed with self-destructive behavior, which included massive abuse of narcotics.

In the passing of Amy Winehouse, we see the media, yet again, giving excessive attention to people who are essentially court jesters.. who liven up our otherwise dull lives - but whom we elevate to god-like status, such that our children, instead of dreaming of being doctors, firemen, farmers and other people who actually deliver productive services to society - instead, seek to emulate O.J. Simpson, Mike Tyson, and Heath Ledger..

Is that really what we should celebrate and revere?

Don't get me wrong - I love music, and my own collection varies from The Beatles, Frank Sinatra, Hank Williams (Jr. and Sr.) to Led Zeppelin, Alice in Chains, Lady Gaga, Nicky Minaj, Eminem and Tupac.

I have great respect for true talent.

However, I'm not impressed with Amy Winehouse from a "talent" point of view - though perhaps that's a matter of personal taste.

Beyond that, and more importantly, I don't think the example of a life based in excess and self-destruction should be celebrated. It should be derided and ridiculed.

We see people with nothing giving up their lives for liberty in Egypt and Libya.  We see men and women in our armed forces giving up their lives for OTHER people's liberty.

And yet - pages and pages of commentary on the tragedy of the passing of Amy Winehouse.

The message, as I've said before, is if you waste a life by being an idiot, you should be remembered as in idiot.
 
No more, no less.
 
She was an idiot.
 
Her life, in my opinion, serves as little more than an example of how NOT to live - and nothing more.

11 comments:

dmorris said...

Well said. I agree.

philosoraptor said...

"It stops and makes me realize that I have a duty to try and make the world a little better than when I got here."

By dishonouring the dead and generally being a judgmental dick towards people that you don't know. She didn't kill anyone, nor did she hurt people. She had an addiction. I didn't like her music, but I'm glad I'm not an inhuman f*ckwit like you.

By the way, she was someone's child, too. Asshole.

Reid said...

When hearing stories like that of Amy Winehouse I like to reflect back on a missive by the greatest fictional tv character ever created...... Al Bundy:

"So you think I'm a loser? Just because I have a stinking job that I hate, a family that doesn't respect me, a whole city that curses the day I was born? Well, that may mean loser to you, but let me tell you something. Every morning when I wake up, I know it's not going to get any better until I go back to sleep again. So I get up, have my watered-down Tang and still-frozen Pop Tart, get in my car with no upholstery, no gas, and six more payments to fight traffic just for the privilege of putting cheap shoes on the cloven hooves of people like you. I'll never play football like I thought I would. I'll never know the touch of a beautiful woman. And I'll never again know the joy of driving without a bag on my head. But I'm not a loser. 'Cause, despite it all, me and every other guy who'll never be what he wanted to be are still out there being what we don't want to be forty hours a week for life. And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner."

R. G. Harvie said...

This is how we dismiss idiotic and self-destructive behavior.

"She was someone's child."

You know what, PR.. Anders Behring Breivik was "someone's child" too.

So what?

And you're correct - she didn't kill anyone - and while I'm not sure if she hurt anyone (I'm thinking her family is pretty hurt right now - and, you know what, I'm not responsible for the pain she's put her family through - she is) the media romanticizing and condoning of addiction is a recipe for making addiction a "lifestyle choice".

"Addict? Why yes I am, but I'm going to Betty Ford so I'm going to be all better.. so, in fact, I'm even MORE interesting now.

What? My role models, why that would be Amy Winehouse, Lindsay Lohan and Charlie Sheen!"

Screw that.

Addicts who kill themselves are not "tragic heroes". They are failures at handling life - and so often, failing to handle a life which is so much more priveleged that millions of other human beings.

If you want to present Amy Winehouse as a modern-day martyr, or tragic hero, or whatever - feel free, but one hopes "someone's child" doesn't seek to emulate her.

philosoraptor said...

Comparing her to a psycho mass murderer? Claiming that I glorified her? Clearly you'll go to any length to avoid criticizing yourself. You're an insensitive f*ck without empathy who clearly likes to play tough guy. Great lesson for the kids.

R. G. Harvie said...

Hey, man.

Now you're just hurting my feelings.

You know.. I'm someone's child.

R. G. Harvie said...

Oh.

And by the way.

I put myself out there and share my thoughts, as occasionally stupid as they might be - without the protection of any "anonymous" identity.

Why?

Because, I think, if you have something to say, you should have the balls to say who you are when you say it.

So.

When you gather up the courage to put on your big-boy pants and share your thoughts with a real name attached to them, well, then I might feel a little more inclined to give a shit about your opinion of who I am and what example I give my kids.

Meanwhile, go ahead and cry tears over the example Amy Winehouse, and Kurt Cobain, and Heath Ledger, and their ilk set for our society and our youth.

I won't - and that's the beauty of living in a free and democratic society (more or less). I can say whatever I like, and if you don't like it, go create your own blog, or twitter, or do whatever.. it's a free world, you can dislike me all you want and you can express that offense to what I write here or elsewhere.. so, say whatever you want.

I think her death is no tragedy.

I think her example is nothing to be admired.

My opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Bec said...

I'm the Sister-in -law of an addict. She has destroyed her entire family and everyone tried to help her.

She almost destroyed her children,us and did destroy her marriage and kill her parents. All those that tried to help her SOOOOO.... SU philosoraptor and deal with your idiocy and lack of reality.

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Patsplace said...

I was at a campout with hundreds of sober people when I heard of her death. Didn't break my heart one frigging bit. She's out there in the limelight and is a role model, like it or not, to lots of young women. I'm not so sure that folks like that don't kill people by the example they set.

Like I said, it didn't break my heart one bit. I know she's somebody's daughter and also some pusher's prime client.

R. G. Harvie said...

Thanks Bec, I appreciate your input from the perspective of someone who has felt first hand the hell of watching a loved one throw their life away.

Best wishes.